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OK, the Fight is on – VFW/Flags vs Marietta City

Veterans to defy city ban on flag distribution 

Earlier I reported that the veterans conquered the flag restricitons by my city of Marietta, Ga.   They had negotiated a truce.  Now the VFW has thrown down the gauntlet and said  that “the truce is off”!  

What seems to have happened is the city had said the VFW could lead the parade with the Lions Club and help hand out flags at the front of the parade and could also walk alongside their float (which is much further back)   and also hand out flags on the sidewalk alongside their float (but not at the curb as in years past).   However, as it turns out, the city has now clarified that the Lions Club and the flag distribution is not part of the parade but will precede the parade by 10 to 15 minutes, claiming that it has “always been that way”.     The Lions Club denies that, claiming they have always been part of the parade.    

That puts the Lions Club, the Fire Truck and the VFW flag distribution at least 10 to 15 minutes before the parade starts and not part of the Fourth Of July parade at all.  The city says the Lions Club is not an official entry of the parade.   The Lions Club has stated flatly that it is. 

The VFW only wants to do what it always has – distribute American Flags alongside their float.  “Americans might be speaking Japanese if it weren’t for veterans”said Korean War Veteran Leon Dean of VFW post 2681.

The movment of the flag distribution away from their float to a point that is not even part of the parade has riled the veterans no end.  It means that their flag distribution which has always been in the curb along the street next to their float is off limits for any flag distribution and the flags will only be distributed prior to the parade, not in it.  The veterans feel dishonored by the city.

The Mayor and Council has stated catagorically that the veterans cannot distribute flags alongside of the float, but at least they are wise enough to state that “nobody will be arrested”.  However that statement leaves open the possibility that the VFW member veterans and the Woman’s Auxillary members will be cited and possibly fined (but not arrested) if they distribute flags after the parade begins, alongside their float as has been the tradition.   The war is on.

 The Mayor Dunaway has blamed the AJC article quoted in an earlier post in this blog as a “distortion of the press” and blamed the story for the “negative national attention” the city has received.  He says that the VFW can’t pass out flags at the float because then every float will want to pass out something and there is nothing to keep some politician from printing an American Flag with a political message on it and passing it out.    He said the prohibition is a common rule. 

If you don’t want negative national attention, Mayor, respect our veteran heroes and our flag!

Mayor William B. Dunnaway  mailto:bdunaway@mariettaga.gov

770-794-5501 Phone 770-794-5505 Fax

Mailing Address
P.O. Box 709
Marietta, GA 30061

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Veterans conquer flag restriction

Veterans conquer flag restriction

Veterans don’t give up without a fight. Not when it comes to the flag. On Wednesday, they secured a victory for patriotism with Marietta (Georgia) officials. “I’m ready to fight any of ’em over the flag,” said James Ellis, past post commander of VFW Post 2681 and veteran of World War II and the Korean War.  
Marietta revises safety rule on distribution during parade after public outcry. 

(origianlly posted by the Atlanta Journal Constitution)
 YOLANDA RODRIGUEZ; Staff

Veterans don’t give up without a fight. Not when it comes to the flag. On Wednesday, they secured a victory for patriotism with Marietta (Georgia) officials. “I’m ready to fight any of ’em over the flag,” said James Ellis, past post commander of VFW Post 2681 and veteran of World War II and the Korean War.

The skirmish started when city officials told the vets that they couldn’t hand out miniature U.S. flags as they walked alongside their float during the annual Fourth of July parade. Citing safety concerns, the city said the veterans could only give the flags away before the parade starts. But after the story hit ajc.com — and after the city received several e-mails about the squabble — Marietta put out a news release that said the flags could be distributed during the parade. The one hitch: The veterans will have to do it from the sidewalks — among the crowds — and not from the parade route along Roswell Street as they walk next to their “Let Freedom Ring” float. “They will be where the people are,” Marietta city spokesman Matthew Daily said. “They will be on the sidewalk. They will not be able to do it on the street.”

But the veterans are not sure how that’s going to work. Last year’s parade attracted 35,000 spectators.  “It’s going to be hard to do it from the sidewalk because there are going to be a lot of people,” said Leon Dean, the post commander and a veteran of the Korean War. The city cited safety concerns — that someone might run out to grab a flag and get hurt — for its policy.

“It’s not just these guys. No one can pass anything out while the parade is going on,” Maggi Moss, the special events coordinator for Marietta’s parks and recreation department, said early Wednesday. Moss said the policy has been in place for years and that officials were not aware that the veterans were handing out the 3-by-5-inch flags. “Obviously, they have been handing them out very secretively,” she said. No one has ever been hurt during the parade, Moss said. Marietta Police Chief Dan Flynn and Officer Mark Bishop will meet with the veterans this morning.  “We are as patriotic, if not more, than most from around here,” said Bishop, who recently returned from an 11-month tour of duty in Iraq with the Navy Reserve. “The bottom line is we want everyone to be safe.”

The parade —the theme this year is One Nation-United — kicks off Wednesday at 10 a.m. from Roswell Street Baptist Church and heads toward Marietta Square.

Update: VFW, Marietta

reach flag detente

By Yolanda Rodriguez
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Published on: 06/29/07

Marietta police Chief Dan Flynn and Marietta’s veterans worked out a compromise on Thursday so they can hand out Old Glory at next week’s parade.The pact: Some members of VFW Post 2681 will walk with other volunteers along Roswell Road handing out the flags before the parade starts.”I understand we put him [Flynn] on the spot too,” said Leon Dean, commander of the post on Thursday.

But some members say they plan to keep on doing what they have done for years.

“I’m walking, baby, and handing flags,” said Rose McDaniel, a member of the post’s Ladies Auxiliary and the incoming chairwoman of its Americanism committee. McDaniel was in the Navy from 1953 to 1957 and her husband, Bill McDaniel, was in the Navy for 22 years.

Citing safety concerns, the city has forbidden the veterans and any other parade participants from handing out anything while they walk in the parade alongside their floats during the Fourth of July parade.

City officials said the VFW members are welcome to hand out Old Glory from the sidewalks among parade viewers. But the veterans say that idea is not practical. Last year’s parade attracted more than 35,000 spectators along a route that is about 1 1/2 miles long.

The veterans maintain that they always have handed out the flags along the parade route without any problems. City officials say the rule has been in place to years and they never knew the veterans were handing out the flags.

Officer Mark Bishop, a police spokesman, said safety is the department’s main concern. “If the issue comes up, then we will address it,” he said.

Respect our flag,
Honor our Troops,
Honor our Veterans

Oldtimer’s Note:  Marietta, Ga. is where I live.  This is my town.  We should be ashamed for ever restricting our flag or prohibiting its distribution.