Oldtimer Speaks more about recalls

A few days ago I made a lengthy post about toy recalls and our general mania about dangerous materials – See Lead Paint Mania – Are we going overboard?.   Such mania has become so ingrained in our younger generation as to be completely ridiculous. 

This delightful cartoon from B.C., created by Johnny Hart and published by Creators Syndicate, Inc. can be found on Creators.com.   Sadly Johnny Hart passed away this year.   Looks like the work is being carried on by capable hands.


Today there is yet another story about a toy recall, this one due to asbestos supposedly found in a Planet Toys CSI toy, a fingerprinting kit.   This comes after traces of asbestos were alledgely found in some samples of the fingerprinting dust. 

Now here is the rub:  Fingerprinting dust is just that, a very finely ground powder.  The problem with asbestos is in the fiber.  People who get asbestosis have usually been exposed to high levels of asbestos fibers for a long time.   Once it is ground so fine that it becomes a dust, it no longer is a fiber is it

Now consider this:  Asbestos is in virtually every sample of dirt and dust you can find on this planet.   We have asbestos dust on and alongside of every road in America from the constant wearing of asbestos pads on our automotive brakes.   Virtually every car had them for throughout their lifetime.   They all wore out somewhere along our highways, mostly in the cities.   No wonder it might show up in fingerprinting dust.  You can very likely find traces of it on your dining room table if you haven’t dusted lately.

Here are common sources of asbestos dust on our planet, not even considering that it is a natural mineral sometimes blasted into the atmosphere by natural sources (I even have a large sample of it in my rock collection):

STEAM PIPES, BOILERS, and FURNACE DUCTS insulated with an asbestos blanket or asbestos paper tape.

RESILIENT FLOOR TILES (vinyl asbestos, asphalt, and rubber)

The backing on VINYL SHEET FLOORING, and ADHESIVES used for installing floor tile.

CEMENT SHEET, MILLBOARD, and PAPER used as insulation around furnaces and woodburning stoves.

DOOR GASKETS in furnaces, wood stoves, and coal stoves.

SOUNDPROOFING OR DECORATIVE MATERIAL sprayed on walls and ceilings.



ARTIFICIAL ASHES AND EMBERS sold for use in gas-fired fireplaces.



Most of the above were found in a listing here: Asbestos Dangers:
A Homeowner’s Field Guide

The list is for the homeowner, but the greatest uses were military and industrial, particularly shipyard and any industrial furnace and boiler application.   

There have been tens of thousands, perhaps many millions of homes and buildings with these materials demolished over the last 100 years without any consideration for the potential danger.  It was an unknown danger.

Here is another rub.   When these products were introduced, no one knew they were dangerous.  As we replace these products with new ones, we have no idea if the new products will someday turn out to be even worse.   Some of these things take 40 or more years of exposure to show harmful effects. 

Anyway, this may be my last post on dangerous material mania.   There is too big of an industry built around “protecting” us from mold, mildew, various “deadly” medicines, mercury, asbestos, lead, silica poisoning, and fake stucco.   Too many testing labs and kit manufacturers,  too many repair and recovery businesses.  Too many lawyers doing class actions, too many activists going after the toy industry.  

Our veterans have been fighting for years about the damage caused by Agent Orange, depleted uranium bullets and other wartime generated dangers.  These are REAL dangers, not imagined ones.   We should be developing industries around correcting those problems which plague our veterans, our heroes.

It is downright discouraging how too many of us overreact to the household things.  The truth is, most of this mania is manufactured by lecherous industries and lawyers.   It is also discoraging that not enough of us are reacting to our homeless plight, particularly our homeless heroes plight.


PS: I wore a face mask filter to finish sanding today.  Was coughing up white dust so I  decided to not fight it any longer.   Who knows?  I might not live another 70 years if I keep abusing myself!

2 responses to “Oldtimer Speaks more about recalls

  1. Comment addressed to Oldtimer, edited to remove link:

    Depleted Uranium – before you say something is real, you should actually know something about the subject. The truth is that DU was found not to harmed any of the soldiers who had fragments embedded in their bodies from the Gulf War. There is an enormous amount of misinformation on the web. It has been deliberately pushed out there by a group of hard core activists who try to make it appear that they are for the troops, but they most assuredly are not. The misinformation started with Saddam Hussein’s government and it has been regurgitated on numerous websites since then. Most of that information is not true. Go to DUStory in Yahoo Groups to learn more. I am still recovering files, etc. from computer meltdown a couple of weeks ago, but if anyone wants to contact me, please, do.

    One Vet – Fiercely Opposed to lies


    I’ve posted your comment and accept your argument that you do not believe it is a danger to the soldiers. Perhaps you need to talk to the writer at Christian Science Monitor, not me. Your reputation precedes you and I will not give you a soapbox. I DO know something about it. I also know that your argument that embeded fragments of DU are not a valid argument. There are tens of thousands of people with lead fragments (myself included) and embedded mercury (I have fillings) etc. and we all know that lead and mercury are definately hazards in situations of excess, particularly in developing children. So are the emissions of radiation from thousands of DU shells on a battlefield. We are not talking about a bullet here and there. Soldiers that enter into areas where DU munitions have been heavily used have been subjected to significant levels of radiation exposure and inhaled dust containing radiating DU. Like it or not, we are not talking about embedded fragments as much as inhaled and absorbed dust and radiation.

    I did not know about the disinformation warfare going on in our government designed to continue use of DU munitions until you commented. Now I know.

    The Christian Science Article seems well balanced and well informed and they mention several times that the risk is low, but also quote others that the risk is real. My opinion is that it is a real danger. When a tank hit by these shells measures 2.5 times more radiation per hour than the maximum radiation recommended for workers per year, then there must be some real danger associated with it.

    I am an avocate for our troops bar none. They are all heroes to me.

    Anyone that wishes to learn the truth about Agent Orange or Depleted Uranium should seek the truth wherever it is.

    Anyone interested in more about the campaign to discredit the dangers of depleted uranium might try looking at the Ecologist site on the subject. Go here, then search for Arbuthnot.


  2. I’m with you oldtimer!! We’re literally worrying ourselves to death about things that might kill us! Lets be happy that our lifespans have increased about 50% over the last century in the Western world and during that time we all have been exposed to lead, asbestos, pesticides, etc.

    You might want to check out some info written by Bruce Ames, he’s one of the worlds leading Cancer researchers and has won countless awards for his work and even he admits all this hooplah over ‘dangerous’ substances is grossly overexaggerated

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